Editor’s Note – Earlier today, a breaking news story from Israel, reported by numerous sources, claimed an American leaked a transcript and/or tape of the actual conversation between Obama and Netanyahu on Sunday that caught everyone’s attention.
It also caused an almost immediate declaration from the White House and the Department of State, and then later from Netanyahu’s office that it was fabricated.
The US v the Israeli media day 3 RT @marieharf: RT @rhodes44 This “transcript of POTUS-PM call” report is totally false
Marie Harf @marieharf RT @rhodes44 This “transcript of POTUS-PM call” report is totally false
The initial story from Arutz Sheva is posted below and it was showing how Obama had thrown Israel under the bus in favor of Hamas and the Gazan terrorists residing with them.
We ask you to judge, but lately, who is more believable, especially since Hamas declared they will not do a cease-fire or disarm anyway.
It appears, if true, that there is no longer a question – Obama has officially taken the side of Hamas over Israel. On that call, Obama was treating Netanyahu as if he were an underling of the US government by his tone and the way he was making demands.
We at SUA are leaning toward it being true, especially after Kerry’s debacle earlier .
The White House and the State Department are still saying this is completely false and never happened, but now we are learning that not only was it true, it was actually worse. In an email from IMRA, we read:
Truth is worse than the denied Oren Nahari reports on Obama Netanyahu conversation Dr. Aaron Lerner – IMRA 29 July 2014
American and Israeli officials charged that the transcript reported below is a fabrication.
In truth, the White House press release describing the conversation is far worse than the transcript presented by Oren Nahari.
According to the White House press release “The President stressed the U.S. view that, ultimately, any lasting solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict must ensure the disarmament of terrorist groups and the demilitarization of Gaza.”
While the EU declares that the terrorists in the Gaza Strip should be disarmed, Mr. Obama doesn’t see the demilitarization of Gaza before there is a “lasting solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict”.
Put bluntly: if we don’t agree to divide Jerusalem then Hamas can keep its rockets.
So while this transcript has Mr. Obama arguing with Netanyahu over the choice of mediators, the White House has Mr. Obama stating for the record that the demilitarization of Gaza is off the agenda until Israel can reach a “lasting solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict”.
In this case the truth is worse than what is now claimed to be fiction.”
So you can see, Obama wants Israel to fall on its sword before it will try to force Hamas and friends to disarm – again, its Israel’s fault this is not ending.
Obama and Kerry say there is no space between the US and Israel, and that they back Israel completely, but those words are countered by other words and actions.
They are also belied by tone and tenor of communication. Read more here at the Jerusalem Post, you decide.
In Leaked Tape, Hostile Obama Tries to Force PM to Accept Truce
US president markedly unfriendly, interrupted prime minister as he attempted to push unfavorable truce on Israel.
By Ari Soffer – Arutz Sheva
Damning evidence has emerged of US President Barack Obama’s dismissal of Israel’s position in favor of supporting the position of Hamas and its allies during ceasefire talks.
A “senior US official” leaked an audio recording of a telephone conversation between Obama and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to Channel One.
In it the 35-minute conversation, which took place on Sunday, the US President appears downright hostile at points, and even cuts off Netanyahu in the middle of his protestations over a one-sided truce proposal which would have seen Hamas receive all its key demands, but that Israel ultimately rejected.
Obama: I demand that Israel agrees to an immediate, unilateral ceasefire and halt all offensive activities – particularly airstrikes.
Netanyahu: What will Israel receive in return for a ceasefire?
Obama: I believe that Hamas will stop firing rockets – silence will be met with silence.
Netanyahu: Hamas violated all five previous ceasefires, it is a terrorist organization which is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.
Obama: I repeat and expect Israel to unilaterally stop all its military activity. The pictures of destruction from Gaza distance the world from Israel’s position.
Netanyahu: Kerry’s proposal was completely unrealistic and gives Hamas the military and diplomatic advantage.
Obama: Within a week of the end of Israel’s military activities, Qatar and Turkey will begin negotiations with Hamas on the basis of the 2012 understanding [following the end of Operation Pillar of Defense – ed.], including Israel’s commitment to removing the siege and restrictions on Gaza,
Netanyahu: Qatar and Turkey are the biggest supporters of Hamas. It is impossible to rely on them to be fair mediators.
Obama: I trust Qatar and Turkey, and Israel is in no position to choose its mediators.
Netanyahu: I object, because Hamas is able to continue and to fire rockets and to use tunnels for terror attacks…
Obama – interrupts Netanyahu mid-sentence: The ball is in Israel’s court – it is obligated to end all military activities.
The Channel One journalist who received the tape emphasized that at other points during the conversation there were more “positive” word exchanged between the two, such as Obama repeating America’s commitment to Israel’s security.
But those words will ring hollow to Israelis, considering that the proposal put together by John Kerry, Qatar and Turkey did not address a single one of Israel’s demands and – as alluded to by Obama himself – relied on little more than the goodwill of Hamas to stop firing rockets.
This, despite the group (which the US itself lists as a terrorist organization) being unabashedly committed to the destruction of the State of Israel and the genocide of all Israeli Jews.
For his part, earlier on Tuesday John Kerry claimed that Prime MinisterNetanyahu had in fact approached him to ask him to help hammer out a ceasefire deal, after previous truce proposals were rejected by Hamas.
If that was indeed the case what resulted could hardly have been whatNetanyahu had in mind: a joint initiative with two states overtly hostile towards Israel, concluding in a draft proposal which would have granted Hamas all of its key conditions – including the opening of air and sea ports and the total lifting on Israel’s security blockade – but which addressed Israel’s “security concerns” in only the vaguest possible terms.